natalian archives 2006 06 09

World cup with no TV

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I’m quite excited about watching the Football World cup on the eve of its schedule kicking off.

Though I am a little worried how I am going to watch it, as I don’t have a TV. *I hate TV*s and I don’t want one and I’ve successfully lived without one for almost 5 years.

Admittedly when I see a TV at a friend’s place I am glued to it like a young child in awe. Well, that’s the problem. I don’t want to waste time with it.

Admittedly I was looking around my building’s recycling depot in case someone recently upgraded their TV and threw out their old one. No such luck.

I also had a look at DVB since it is used widely in Seoul. Though the USB device for my X40 costs 70USD and I wasn’t sure I could get it working under Linux.

So my idea is to watch the world cup with the help of a bit torrent site like mininova.org. I prefer watching video this way as I can watch it at 3x speed and quickly watch the highlights. Though I will dearly miss BBC‘s coverage. Esp. the commentary. Pity their Real/Windows media service sucks so much. And its only available in the UK. Daft.

I also will be endeavouring to go out to watch the games. Probably somewhere in Itaewon with the rest of the expats. Though this will be difficult in the early hours of the morning. And I am not a fan of “live” games either. I don’t like hearing yobs spouting obscenities and smoke in my presence during a game.

Oh well, wish me luck and er… England!

Update: I’ve rebroadcasting Radio5 for people wanting to catch the World cup on the Radio who aren’t in the UK.

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222.106.128.78

Gosh, England were terrible!

I’ve been checking the bit torrent sites and there are some games, but not all of them. For example there isn’t the Argentina game this morning and I’ve check several sites.

When I watched Germany on Friday night, it was great. Quiet bar “Sunbo” in Bucheon with a big screen and cheap beer. Last night in Itaewon’s Holiday was too manic. So I watched in silence from the French bistro next door. Damn, England sucked.

I noticed some sites claim to offer World cup steaming and what not with horrible proprietary clients. I am not interested in streams. I want a well encoded AVI please!

Comment by hendry

222.106.128.78

I am trying to work out how the hell to get 5live in Seoul.

I\‘ve only just discovered I don\‘t have to use the rediculously shit realplayer client. I can use mplayer CLI! Yahoooo! Except I need to find an open UK proxy now. Help.

http://dave.org.uk/streams/

sam$ mplayer http_proxy://${OPEN_UK_PROXY}/rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio5/live/r5_tl_int_g2.ra

Comment by hendry

218.38.160.201

i hope these could be a help for it.
i searched and found them.

Comment by daniel kisu kang

222.106.128.78

That live stream doesn’t work. I don’t want a live video stream. All I want is bloody Radio 5 live at this point.

I’ve been wrestling with proxies and realplayer for the last 2 hours and getting nowhere.

I think I’ve just got to buy a fecking TV.

Comment by hendry

125.131.161.40

Really fucking dumb. I HATE REAL PLAYER!! IT JUST MAKES ME WANT TO SCREAM. I\\\‘ve been doing a lot of testing with Real player under Windows and Linux.

The windows client is fucking ADWARE, with its fucking message centre and how it tries to get you to pay for the fucking full version and how it tries to own all media types. FUCKERS!!

I looked at various Debian proxies, but they didn\\\‘t seem to work. I think the protocol RTSP doesn\\\‘t proxy without special support. Unfortunately that support doesn\\\‘t fucking compile. http://www.rtsp.org/2001/proxy/

After some frantic searching I found CCproxy. http://www.youngzsoft.net/ccproxy/real.html I think it might work. http://static.natalian.org/2006–06-12/ccproxysetup.exe Since my parents in the UK have only Windows, this just might be the ticket.

Though the real player clients under Linux SUCKS. I can\\\‘t get Helix working with a RTSP stream. What a waste of time. I can\\\‘t get realplayer to run under my Ubuntu system at home. My Ubuntu system at work is AMD64. AMD64 doesn\\\‘t have all the media codes ported to it yet !! https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats#head-7c5caf5975c1ac7ff8a6ff24ea044d4c42ac1712

Evidently listening to English coverage of the World Cup might be terribly illegal. All I can say to that FUCK YOU FIFA, for greedily guarding the coverage rights. FUCK YOU BBC for buying into it. FUCK YOU BBC again for being the world\\\‘s leading example of Geographical censorship.

I have some other interesting links: http://del.icio.us/hendry/worldcup06

Comment by hendry

218.38.160.201

is there any difference between rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm//ev7/live24/radio5/live/r5_tl_int_g2.ra and rtsp://rmlivev8acl.bbc.net.uk/farm//ev7/live24/radio5/live/r5_tl_g2.ra ?
first one is for international, and second one is for uk only.. and mms:// links works both hi and low..

maybe i think uk-only rm only offer live radio stream..right?

Comment by daniel kisu kang

222.106.128.78

Actually I think BBC is smart enough to change to right version based on IP.

I tested the CCproxy and Win32 Realplayer last night and it works!

Now the problem I still face is getting Linux realplayer working properly.

I think I might try setup http://icecast.org/ and get it re-encode the Realplayer stream into some sensible format like OGG.

Comment by hendry

125.131.161.40

Haha! I figured out why Realplayer was crashing on my machine. SCIM. Which is a special input method which is used to enter foreign character sets.
Comment by hendry

218.38.160.201

good news for ya, i’m bored with the match “ukraine vs. spain”..heh

i hate uk-only censorship..though

Comment by daniel kisu kang

222.106.128.198

Oh yes the UK feed is:

rtsp://rmlivev8acl.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio5/live/r5_tl_g2.ra

The international feed doesn’t switch the UK like I previously assumed it would.

Comment by hendry

125.131.161.40

I started a new blog entry about 5live : http://natalian.org/archives/2006/06/15/bbc-radio-5-live/
Comment by hendry

222.106.128.198

http://www.bbcproxy.com/pricing.html just commented (spammed) on this post.

It is sad outfits like this have sprung up. Charging 90USD for a service BBC should normally provide. It also looks really dodgy. What are the guarantees you’ll receive service from this Russian outfit?

I’m providing a free service as a protest of BBC‘s policy to limit Internet coverage to the UK. The Internet should never be geographically limited.

Comment by hendry

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Russian outfit here…

It usually takes about 500Mb per user proxying live broadcast.
I pay for a huge bandwidth. Why do you think I should offer this service for free?

Again is it that important for you weather I\‘m american or russian?
I thought you just wanted to watch BBC live broadcast.

Comment by bbcproxy

12.29.47.35

Hi all,
just found this site after googling “live audio streaming world cup”. I’m a Brit in the US and would love to hear the 5 live on my mac at work. I’m not super-computer-friendly, though. Could someone tell me how I can use this get-around that you guys are talking about, please? Thanks.

Comment by spence

222.106.128.198

spence, the details are over here : http://natalian.org/archives/2006/06/15/bbc-radio-5-live/

Though I don’t use a Mac so I can’t really help you with listening to an OGG stream.

Comment by hendry

151.197.185.18

I use a mac. You need to download a player called VLC for mac. It plays ogg streams or files just fine. I listened to all the matches I could on a Mac G4 in the USA.
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